Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari have been coined "the Ab Fab of the new age” with good reason. Effortlessly merging pop culture and "wellness", the ladies of That’s So Retrograde seek out their most authentic selves, one mistake — or mindful awakening — at a time, while graciously bringing their listeners along for the ride.

  photo credit:  Jon Hoeg

photo credit: Jon Hoeg


Through interviewing gurus of all kinds; from shamans to comedians, Steph and Elizabeth deliver conscious conversations with realness and humor, all while providing tips and expert insight to guide their listeners to their most enlightened path.

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Stephanie Simbari

is a funny creative who names comedian / actress / writer and host as some of her titles. She was born and raised in the suburbs of New York City and spent most of her teen years drinking malt liquor and taking the train to NYC to get body piercings she would later live to regret. She's since mostly cleaned up her act and become a devoted yogini and spiritual seeker. She tours the country as a stand up comedian, and was a series regular on 'Funny Girls' on Oxygen. You can find her on Netflix in the critically acclaimed indie film 'Coldwater' and she co-hosts her very own podcast, the highly rated and what many have called "life changing" wellness show, 'That's So Retrograde'. Find her on Instagram if you want to follow a cute girl who's usually fully clothed. @stephsimbari



Elizabeth Schild Kott

As a metro- Detroit native, Kott began her career in the mid 2000s in the then burgeoning digital fashion space working for stylist, Rachel Zoe, as a founding creator and team member of The Zoe Report. Kott then moved on to shift the world of online fashion consignment with website and lifestyle brand, Closet Rich. Under the Closet Rich umbrella, Kott designed the much admired and then insta-famous R*ch as Fuck line in collaboration with Fred Segal; created and hosted the philanthropically driven web-series, Closet RicH, and co-wrote and directed a number of fashionably comedic sketches for YouTube with an all female comedian cast. Recognized by the likes of Elle Magazine, Refinery 29, Glamour and Entrepreneur Magazine for her work, Kott, a multi hyphenate to the core, names host, producer, writer, stylist and creative director as some of her most worn hats. She is currently co-creator, producer and host of prolific wellness podcast That’s So Retrograde, leading the way in the wellness space with humor and attracting listeners from all over the globe. For some shameless self promotion coupled with aesthetically pleasing photos, you can find her on social media: @elizabethkott.